Pardon me for creating this thread, but I want to capture this great discussion in one topic.
Hopefully it won’t fizzle out after this.
Pardon me for creating this thread, but I want to capture this great discussion in one topic.
Hopefully it won’t fizzle out after this.
VersaModule:
Time to get one of these.
Amazon.comOr roll your own with one of these for a fraction of the price. I have one of these, a Nextion display and an ESP8266 module to display the data locally and send the data over MQTT.
VersaModule:
cyberh0me:another related issue “Electronic energy meters’ false readings almost six times higher than actual energy consumption”
https://www.utwente.nl/en/news/!/2017/3/313543/electronic-energy-meters-false-readings-almost-six-times-higher-than-actual-energy-consumptionTime to get one of these.
Amazon.comHere in the UK this weekend there was a glitch with one suppliers Smart Meters which meant people were seeing vastly increased usage. There was one report of £30,000 ($36605) for one day!! These meters post the usage back to the energy supplier directly!!
VersaModule:
Do they send a pin out diagram with it ?
There is a document link on the website. The PCB is marked with the pinout.
It is a UART interface and fixed length data. Very easy to use.
An interesting device - with Vdd out too (though not specified at what voltage). If one is lucky, it might be a usable voltage with enough umph to be able to power an ESP or G30 or something useful for collecting and relaying data. There also seem to be some 0.1" pins that might expose even more interesting interfacing possibilities. They’re cheap enough that you could put one on each branch circuit or on selected outlets to get fine-grained info on usage. I’m intrigued, but also not searching for new distractions. That doesn’t mean I won’t get some and put them in the project queue.
EDIT: I am weak. Ordered 5.
mcalsyn:
An interesting device - with Vdd out too (though not specified at what voltage). If one is lucky, it might be a usable voltage with enough umph to be able to power an ESP or G30 or something useful for collecting and relaying data.
Interesting indeed. The necessity to connect it to mains is a bit of a turnoff. When you mentioned this I got excited and thought maybe they were creating Vdd using induction while measuring the current or something but it looks like they’re just tapping into the AC.
Still it could be interesting to put one in the wall of every socket as you mention but it would be a bit of a pain to do the installation. This could definitely be the makings of an improved Kill-a-Watt type device.
@ ianlee74 - So, 3d-print a wall socket box that has a deep bottom - that is, one that slides into a normal opening, but hangs down within the wall. Put the electronics in the bottom and you have a concealed per-outlet sensor. Of course, this only works in US-style stud walls.
to me this unit isn’t something I’d use. In AUS the regulations are such that tapping into 240v for power like it is doing requires an approved device which this isn’t. If it was two PCBs, one with the power supply and one with the monitoring, and DC voltage between it’d be ideal as you could just use an approved DC plugpack to power it.
this is what i use with few resistor and capacitor to have low voltage output for a/d converter
http://www.watterott.com/index.php?page=product&info=1667
yup, that fizzled… only one poster on the first page
@ Brett - I guess that’s how it goes. Well I got a bunch of it corralled into one thread so we can come back to it. I would have never remembered to search for a thread named dark side of tech.
this is what i use with few resistor and capacitor to have low voltage output for a/d converter
http://www.watterott.com/index.php?page=product&info=1667
Wechselstrom Messwandler?
I had a messwandler once, but I got a prescription.
The board I posted about doesn’t have a VCC output. It has a 3.3 or 5V input for powering the opto-isolators so I use an Itead Studio 5V 500mA AC-DC to power the ESP12 module I use to talk to this board. In fact, I have found that to use 3.3V you need to change a resistor but I couldn’t get reliable comms this way so I power from 5V and use two BSN20’s to do the level conversion to 3.3V. Works perfectly this way.
https://www.itead.cc/power/other-power/ac-dc-power-module-5v-500ma-v3.html
These are very well made and they have good AC-DC isolation.
I used a Nextion display from Itead to give me a local readout of the voltage, current and power. The image below doesn’t have the costs display. I’ll update later when the unit is built and installed.
“Non-invasive AC current sensor (30A max)” also available as 100A version
My current system uses one of those. The new board using the PZEM004 has ultra stable readings and can measure 1W quite easily. And price wise you get the clamp and the measuring circuit for a little more than the above clamp alone.
I could never get the AVR to be stable enough.
Dave McLaughlin:VersaModule:
Do they send a pin out diagram with it ?
There is a document link on the website. The PCB is marked with the pinout.
It is a UART interface and fixed length data. Very easy to use.
Dave, the only link i see is one to refernece another like type device. Can you give a blind man a hint where its at
Dave, the only link i see is one to reference another like type device. Can you give a blind man a hint where its at
Try this. It was on the link to the other module (one without the split core)
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This will give you a ZIP file which contains the Windows software and a Word document on the protocol.
VersaModule:
Dave, the only link i see is one to reference another like type device. Can you give a blind man a hint where its at
Try this. It was on the link to the other module (one without the split core)
This will give you a ZIP file which contains the Windows software and a Word document on the protocol.
Thanks Dave! But those files do not contain a pinout.
Thanks Dave! But those files do not contain a pinout.
It does for the 4 pin TTL serial port.
The other connector is not documented. I suspect this is used for internal programming and testing.