Not exactly a lot of details known yet but hopefully this will help evolve native NETMF networking to be better. More options is always better.
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[quote]And a whole new class of low-cost, NETMF-capable microcontrollers with integrated wireless connectivity is now arriving on the market.
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I wonder if Chris has plans to port netMF onto one of these.
I wonder if Chris has plans to port netMF onto one of these.
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Possibly. Any idea what microcontrollers heās referring to? I donāt recall seeing anything like that yet. It sounds exactly like what we need NOW!
For some reason I am not very optimistic, but weāll see.
did you say Agent ?
We have had this fit a very long time, with even support for cc3000. Thanks to mip.
Folks, I think itās in poor taste to use GHIās public forums to disparage others in the NETMF community. Whatever issues may exist with other projects, thereās no constructive purpose in rehashing them here, IMO.
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@ devhammer - I guess you are talking about mentioning of the Agent by @ Brett.
Are you a backer? What do you think about the latest update? Just curious.
@ Architect - Iām not spending a lot of time thinking about it. I backed it because I thought it was important to support such an ambitious NETMF project, and I still hope it gets done eventually, but for the time being, Iāve put it mostly out of mind.
FWIW, too many people think of Kickstarter as a store for new stuff, rather than being an investment, and any investor will tell you that some investments donāt work out.
I also think too many folks are eager to ascribe bad motives, when other explanations would fit the evidence just as well.
Iāll leave it at that, as I donāt think itās a productive discussion for a public forum, and most folks probably have already made up their minds. 
@ devhammer - I agree, and although it is nice to get something back for backing a project KS is definitely not a store.
As for the Agent there is no really a place to talk about it. Last update on KS was kind of an insult than an update. KS comments section is full of lynching mob at the moment. Agentās community forum looks abandoned (pages and pages of spam posts). CW doesnāt reply to anything Agent related on Netduino forums or any other places. More an more people project their frustration on the NETMF as a whole.
So think this place is good as any to talk about it, although at this point there is not much to say unfortunately.
Itās an interesting development, but I think Iām with Cuno on this. A managed TCP/IP stack, while it does have some advantages, has some pretty big disadvantages as well.
Cuno and his team have proven that networking with lwIP can be quite stable if implemented correctly, and it sounds like the core team is working on just that.
Sorry if anyone thinks Iāve bought this discussion into disrepute. But Iām not going to apologise for it overlyā¦ I am sorry for swaying too far from topic though - but Iāll perpetuate it more
Agreed, the level of updates on Agent has dropped off and outwardly is almost bordering on āabandonedā. The forum is full of spam, with nothing meaningful appearing there. I get this is a project that has been hard, and thatās actually ok - I too backed it because itās a technology I love and wanted to foster itās wider adoption. Iām not baying for my money back or anything either, but something that was said in earlier updates was a regular cadence, which has never been recanted or apologised for, and I unfortunately feel this is a significant shortfall. To be focussed on other things (the IP stack post) might not show the community the right level of commitment to reducing the current roadblocks and keeping somewhat on track with the latest-plan.
A side note: As far as I know, networking is as stable on our devices as on any other nermf platform today, even with having much more to offer, Wi-Fi and ppp. However, all netmf devices are at 99% prefect now and need the update Microsoft talked about to be 100%.
But credit where credit is due, Cunoās team produced a (much more) solid networking stack significantly ahead of GHI.
And no doubt Cunoās team are a rocking bunch for sure, but even Cuno will tell you that there are some issues around networking that they didnāt take on and those are what the guys at Microsoft are taking an ugly stick to (and maybe a ālittleā more). Networking was a huge concern but as it sits right now we are in excellent shape and with some of the work that is coming, Iām not sure the Netduino.IP solution is needed, but when it ships Iāll certainly be happy to take a look at it but I doubt Iāll pay any attention to it until it actually ships. My biggest interest is what Microsoft has coming down the pipe.
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And letās not forget that this market space is a relatively new space and that all contributions are equally important from established companies to the really smart guy or gal creating the next amazing module or mainboard in their garage or basement.
@ godefroi - Cuno the best thing that happened to netmf lately. Big thanks to him for the great contributions that benefited everyone including GHI. I never said otherwise. The point is that the networking is now usable, even commercially, in case someone new is reading these posts and wondering.
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@ Gus - I donāt want to minimize any contributions here, certainly GHI has been keeping the NETMF flame alive for longer than any other active group, I believe. I just think that thereās still a lot of credit to spread around
Hmm, thats powerful stuff right there from the manā¦ well done. 